by Irina Tsukerman and Scott Douglas Jacobsen
How do Irina Tsukerman and Jan Jekielek examine forced organ harvesting in China, transplant tourism, medical ethics, and Western complicity?
Irina Tsukerman is a human rights and national security lawyer, journalist, and geopolitical analyst. She is editor-in-chief of The Washington Outsider, host of The Washington Outsider Report, and president of Scarab Rising, Inc. A Fordham Law graduate, she writes and speaks internationally on security, disinformation, foreign policy, and human rights.
Jan Jekielek is a senior editor at The Epoch Times, host of American Thought Leaders, journalist, and author. His career spans academia, human rights work, and media. He specializes in interviews and is the author of Killed to Order, examining China’s forced organ harvesting industry and Chinese Communist Party governance.
In this interview, Irina Tsukerman and Jan Jekielek discuss Jekielek’s book Killed to Order and allegations of systematic forced organ harvesting in China. They examine the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners and Uyghurs, transplant tourism, medical ethics, Western institutional complicity, euthanasia, social-credit systems, and Communist Party governance. Jekielek explains the evidence he considers central to the case, while Tsukerman probes legal accountability, trafficking networks, policy responses, international responsibility, and broader human-rights implications for democratic governments.
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